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		<title>Joomla! vs. WordPress, Why I Made the Switch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A little over three years ago I made the switch from the Nucleus CMS to the Joomla CMS. At the time my main motivations for making the switch were the slowness of the Nucleus development cycle, and my desire to use a system that was easier to update and to make information easier to find. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-942" title="wordpress-vs-joomla" src="http://www.talatorre.com/tao-wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/wordpress-vs-joomla.png" alt="wordpress-vs-joomla" width="300" height="300" />A little over three years ago I made the switch from the <a title="A New Look" href="http://www.talatorre.com/2006/05/a-new-look/">Nucleus CMS to the Joomla CMS</a>.  At the time my main motivations for making the switch were the slowness of the Nucleus development cycle, and my desire to use a system that was easier to update and to make information easier to find.</p>
<p>For the last few years Joomla! has served me well and I have used the framework as the backend for a number of commercial and private websites.  At the end of April I decided to launch a new blog site, <a title="SloArch" href="http://www.SloArch.com" target="_blank">www.SloArch.com</a>, and started looking for the easiest way to get a blog up and running.  My tech mentor <a title="LeoVille" href="http://leoville.com/" target="_blank">Leo Laporte</a> has been touting <a title="SuareSpace.com" href="http://www.squarespace.com/" target="_blank">SquareSpace.com</a> for a few weeks.  I checked out their site, which is amazing, but I didn&#8217;t like the idea of paying a monthly fee and I wasn&#8217;t planning on giving up my web hosting account with <a onclick="this.href='http://www.siteground.com/atrack.php?referrerid=28022'" href="http://www.siteground.com" target="_blank">SiteGround</a>, so I looked primarily at solutions that I could host myself.</p>
<p>I had taken a look at WordPress three years ago and I decided to take another look (I also checked out <a href="http://nucleuscms.org/" target="_blank">Nucleus</a>, still not impressed).</p>
<p>Wow, WordPress has grown up in the last three years.  Bottom line, I used WordPress on SloArch.com for a month and new I had to port this site over.  So, for the last 5 days, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been doing.</p>
<p>Okay, this is why you are here, you don&#8217;t care about all that history.</p>
<h3>Joomla vs. WordPress</h3>
<h4>1. Post Editing:</h4>
<p>This was probably my biggest frustration with Joomla is the lack of an integrated tag system and the ability to add posts to multiple categories.  Since the purpose of this site is really to be a blog, tagging and multiple categories have been something I&#8217;ve wanted to add for some time.</p>
<p>WordPress also has a great autosave feature as well as keeping a history of past article versions.  I havn&#8217;t had a need to go back to a previous version, but the autosave feature has saved me a couple times already.  With Joomla!  I typically edited my text in an external editor because I was afraid of browser crashes, etc.  If you don&#8217;t edit site content that often or your posts are usually short then this probably isn&#8217;t important.</p>
<p>Joomla! and WordPress both have great WYSIWYG editors and Joomla! has a number of editors that you can use.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Winner: WordPress<span id="more-938"></span></span></p>
<h4>2. Plugin System</h4>
<p>Joomla 1.5 made big improvements to the plugin system for the CMS.  You can now install plugins, modules, components, and templates all through the same interface.  Manual installation with WordPress is a bit more complicated, themes need to be uploaded via ftp; plugins and widgets can also be uploaded or installed through the admin interface.</p>
<p>Finding addons for Joomla is a lot easier than with WordPress.  <a href="http://extensions.joomla.org/" target="_blank">Joomla!&#8217;s extension directory</a> allows for very easy searching of over 4,400 extensions in a very granular way, you can search by licence, free/non-free, and by extension type.  The extensions are also grouped into well organized categories.</p>
<p>WordPress in contrast, has over 5,400 plugins that are organized only by user defined tags.  While in theory this sounds great, the tags aren&#8217;t as specific or as well assigned as Joomla!&#8217;s categories.</p>
<p>Both WordPress and Joomla! have good user rating and comment systems.</p>
<p>The big advantage of WordPress over Joomla! is the ability to search for and install plugins directly from within the administrator console.  It is very easy to try out different plugins quickly and all of the plugins are transferred and installed on your site without having to visit the developers webpage or downloading anything to your local machine.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Winner: WordPress</span></p>
<h4>3. Templating</h4>
<p>Having templated many Joomla! websites and only two WordPress sites I probably can&#8217;t be considered an expert in WordPress templates, however from my experience I have found WordPress&#8217; templating system to be very convuluded.  Joomla! templates are contained in one index.php file that then references supporting images, css, javascript, etc.  Joomla! also allows for overriding any of the content templates for any of the view types.  The biggest strength of Joomla! is it&#8217;s module system.  The template can define an infinite number of positions for content, usually these are a left column, main content area, right column, header, footer, banner, and maybe a debug position.  The user of the template only uses those module positions that they want and this can vary from page to page.  Ont index.php file defines all of that!</p>
<p>WordPress on the other hand uses a theme system that applies a template to each page/view type.  For example, the index.php file is the default view, but if you want to have a page that has two columns, and one that has one column, these would be two separate templates, index.php, single_column.php.  Each view type, archive, category, search, single article, all have their own templates.  This is in contrast to Joomla! which uses one template and components to define how the content is displayed.</p>
<p>I personally find Joomla! much easier to modify.  If you are a person who just uses out of the box templates then you might find WordPress easier.  If you want to move things around and customize your site then you will probably find Joomla! easier.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Winner: Joomla!</span></p>
<h4>4. Software Updates</h4>
<p>This was a big reason I switched to WordPress for this site, Joomla! can&#8217;t even compete with the ease of updating WordPress.  WordPress allows for in place updates of plugins and with the <a href="http://techie-buzz.com/wordpress-plugins/wordpress-automatic-upgrade-12-release.html" target="_blank">Automatic Upgrade Plugin</a> you can do an in place upgrade of the WordPress installation as well.  Friendly alerts tell you when things need upgrading.</p>
<p>Joomla! currently has no upgrade system.  Upgrade are handled by manually overwriting files via ftp.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Winner: WordPress</span></p>
<h4>5. Initial Setup</h4>
<p>Installation of both Joomla! and WordPress are about the same.  Copy some files, set up some basic parameters and you&#8217;re ready to go.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Winner: Tie</span></p>
<h4>Final Thoughts</h4>
<p>I still think that Joomla! is the best opensource CMS out there.  Version 1.5 was a huge improvement and the developer team is working hard to keep Joomla! on the leading edge.  What it came down to for me was ease of use.  I&#8217;m not modifying my template every day (historically I&#8217;ve done it every three years) and Joomla! is overkill for a simple blog.  WordPress is lacking in some areas as well, creating custom RSS feeds, and having extreme control over content display are two area, but WordPress doesn&#8217;t market itself as a CMS, it&#8217;s a blogging platform.  I will continue to use Joomla! for my corporate sites, but for a simple blog WordPress will be my choice.</p>
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		<title>New Photos</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2007/04/new-photos/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 08:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, the long awaited web site update has happened! I know everyone anxiously visits my web page twice a year to see if I&#8217;ve updated anything! Well, I have&#8230; I&#8217;ve moved all of my pictures to Flickr. I&#8217;ve been hosting all of my pictures on my own server but I decided it&#8217;s better to use [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the long awaited web site update has happened!  I know everyone anxiously visits my web page twice a year to see if I&#8217;ve updated anything!  Well, I have&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve moved all of my pictures to <a title="My Flickr Account" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/talatorre/" target="_blank">Flickr</a>. I&#8217;ve been hosting all of my pictures on my own server but I decided it&#8217;s better to use Flickr becuase I have unlimited space and bandwidth so I can post a lot more than I have been.  Also, Flickr has a much more robust permissions system so I can mark pictures as only visible by my family, friends and family, contacts, or everyone.  This will make Flickr the one stop shop for everyone.</p>
<p>The  photos you can access here on Talatorre.com are only the photos I have marked as public.  If you are a friend or a family member you can create your own Flickr account and access all of my pictures.</p>
<p>Hope everyone enjoys the upgrade and I&#8217;ll try to post more soon <img src='http://www.talatorre.com/tao-wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>UPDATE 06/10/09:  This is how the site looked after the redesign.  The site featured a Facebook button and Flickr thumbnail.  The site structure was very similar to the current structure but was based on the Joomla! CMS.</p>
<div id="attachment_1850" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 240px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-1850" href="http://www.talatorre.com/2007/04/new-photos/07-1028-talatorre/"><img class="size-full wp-image-1850" title="Tim Alatorre Online - Oct 28, 2007" src="http://www.talatorre.com/tao-wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/07-1028-talatorre.png" alt="Tim Alatorre Online as of Oct 28, 2007" width="230" height="148" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tim Alatorre Online as of Oct 28, 2007</p></div>
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		<title>Talatorre dot com</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2006/11/talatorre-dot-com/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim Alatorre Online&#8230;. it&#8217;s Dot Com! Good news! Talatorre.com is back! You can now reach Tim Alatorre Online by either entering www.talatorre.org or www.talatorre.com!]]></description>
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<p>Good news! Talatorre.com is back!  You can now reach Tim Alatorre Online by either entering www.talatorre.org or www.talatorre.com!</p>
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		<title>A New Look</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2006/05/a-new-look/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 00:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim Alatorre Online has undergone another face lift! In the ever evolving world of the internet I felt that my site was becoming outdated. My new site takes advantage of one of the hotest content managment systems available today, Joomla! Not all of the content from my old site has been migrated to this one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Alatorre Online has undergone another face lift!  In the ever evolving world of the internet I felt that my site was becoming outdated.  My new site takes advantage of one of the hotest content managment systems available today, <a title="Joomla!" href="www.joomla.org" target="_blank">Joomla!</a></p>
<p>Not all of the content from my old site has been migrated to this one yet.  You can still get everything that was by going <a title="My old site" onclick="window.open('index_old.shtml','TAlatorre.org Old site layout','left='+(screen.availWidth/2-0)+',top='+(screen.availHeight/2-0)+'');return false;" href="#">here.</a></p>
<p>Hopefully this new technology will make it easier for me to update the site and make the information easier to find!</p>
<p>EDIT June 9th, 2009:  The old site is no longer available, all content is available on this site.</p>
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		<title>Talatorre.org March 2005 Statistics</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2005/04/talatorreorg-march-2005-statistics-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some interesting statistics for talatorre.org in March 2005. Average of 75 visits per day Most visits was on March 19th (592 visits) The site is accessed the most at 7am and 4pm There is an average 21hits at 3am! Who&#8217;s up that early? People came to my page by searching for: tim Alatorre, crystal Alatorre, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting statistics for talatorre.org in March 2005.</p>
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<li>Average of 75 visits per day</li>
<li>Most visits was on March 19th (592 visits)</li>
<li>The site is accessed the most at 7am and 4pm</li>
<li>There is an average 21hits at 3am!  Who&#8217;s up that early?</li>
<li>People came to my page by searching for: tim Alatorre, crystal Alatorre, cuesta<br />
college, institute of religion, gordon b hinckley, birth date, la iglesia de jesus<br />
cristo de los santos de los ultimos dias, norma alicia barto, norma lehr, and<br />
www.talatorre.org</li>
<li>People visited my web site from the United States, Brazil, Sweden, Mexico, Seychelles, Belgium, Canada, France, Australia, Japan, the United Kingdom, and Yugoslavia.</li>
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<p>We now know who is up at 3am PST!</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m only human!</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2005/04/im-only-human/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2005 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been scrolling through my web stats for March and I was surprised to find that 2 people came to my site by doing a search for Gordon B. Hinckley&#8217;s birth day. For those of you who haven&#8217;t found that information on my site yet it&#8217;s located on my page dedicated to the current apostles [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been scrolling through my web stats for March and I was surprised to find that 2 people came to my site by doing a search for Gordon B. Hinckley&#8217;s birth day. For those of you who haven&#8217;t found that information on my site yet it&#8217;s located on my page dedicated to <a href="http://www.talatorre.com/2005/04/the-apostles-2/">the current apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints</a>.</p>
<p>One neat feature of this page is that it always shows the current age of the Apostles and updates automatically when they have a birthday! I was showing the page to Crystal and she noticed that Elder Wirthlin was only 33 years old! I&#8217;m sure he would like to be that young again, but alas, I entered his birthday as 1971 when it should have been 1917.</p>
<p>Sorry all, I&#8217;m only human!</p>
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		<title>slø bløg defined</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2005/02/slo-blog-defined/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran across an interesting site today which defined &#8220;sloblog&#8221; as a blog that did not update very often. Although I named this blog for San Luis Obispo county where I reside and for the city of San Luis Obispo where I lived and currently attend school, I think it very fitting that the word [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across an interesting site today which defined &#8220;sloblog&#8221; as a blog that did not update very often.   Although I named this blog for San Luis Obispo county where I reside and for the city of San Luis Obispo where I lived and currently attend school, I think it very fitting that the word has this alternate definition as it describes my site perfectly!</p>
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		<title>Changes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahh, changes&#8230;. Well, Tim Alatorre Online has a new look! Up until now the web site has just been a conglomerate of a lot of different experiments and had little cohesion. With the new design I hope to make the entire site feel like one! Ahh&#8230;. so nice. Everything should be up in running soon, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, changes&#8230;.  Well, Tim Alatorre Online has a new look!   Up until now the web site has just been a conglomerate of a lot of different experiments and had little cohesion.</p>
<p>With the new design I hope to make the entire site feel like one!  Ahh&#8230;. so nice.  Everything should be up in running soon, in the meantime bear with the changes.   Content is being sacrificed as I work on the graphical side of things.   A new feature I&#8217;m excited about is an integrated search function on the title bar!</p>
<p>As a bit of trivia: I took the picture of the palm trees on the banner from the roof of the Bren School at the UCSB campus!</p>
<p>Thanks for visiting!</p>
<p>UPDATE 06/10/09:  Here is how the site looked after the redesign mentioned above.  The site featured drop menus and many, many hover effects.</p>
<div id="attachment_1847" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-1847" href="http://www.talatorre.com/2004/12/changes/05-0210-talatorre/"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1847" title="Tim Alatorre Online - Feb 10, 2005" src="http://www.talatorre.com/tao-wp/wp-content/uploads/2004/12/05-0210-talatorre-300x188.jpg" alt="Tim Alatorre Online as of Feb. 10th, 2005" width="300" height="188" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Tim Alatorre Online as of Feb. 10th, 2005</p></div>
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		<title>Learn From My Mistakes</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2004/11/learn-from-my-mistakes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Tim Alatorre Online has been temporarily relocated to talatorre.org. Now, I know that when talatorre.com was launched that I said Tim Alatorre Online would never move again but due to my own ignorance the web page has moved once again. It seems that when I registered the domain &#8220;talatorre.com&#8221; I had my hosting company [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Tim Alatorre Online has been temporarily relocated to talatorre.org.  Now, I know that when talatorre.com was launched that I said Tim Alatorre Online would never move again but due to my own ignorance the web page has moved once again.</p>
<p>It seems that when I registered the domain &#8220;talatorre.com&#8221; I had my hosting company do it for me.   I was assured that I would retain the rights to the domain.   I, however, never obtained the login information for the registrar where the domain was registered (namecheap.com).   Two weeks ago my host (novicehost.com) went offline.   A few days later they came back online.  They are now offline once again.   I have been trying this entire time to contact them to obtain the login for the registrar so that I can change the DNS servers for the domain.</p>
<p>So, the result is that &#8220;talatorre.com&#8221; is still pointing to &#8220;novicehost.com&#8221;, which doesn&#8217;t exist.   I therefore have registered &#8220;talatorre.org&#8221; and it is configured to point to my new host (amhosting.com).   Until I can gain control of &#8220;talatorre.com&#8221; again you can access my web page at talatorre.org.</p>
<p>The moral of the story:  Spend the extra 5 minutes to register your own domain.</p>
<p>UPDATE July 9th, 2009:  I finally reaquired &#8220;talatorre.com&#8221; in <a href="http://www.talatorre.com/2006/11/talatorre-dot-com/">November of 2006</a>, I had to wait two years for the domain to expire so that I could reregister it.</p>
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		<title>Back Online Again</title>
		<link>http://www.talatorre.com/2004/09/back-online-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m sure some people are wondering what happened to TAlatorre online at the beginning of September. I&#8217;ll explain. For the last several months my site has been hosted for free by Anyxhost.com. That&#8217;s why my site had the address talatorre.anyxhost.com. Well, the last week of August my site went offline and anyxhost disappeared without a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure some people are wondering what happened to TAlatorre online at the beginning of September.  I&#8217;ll explain.  For the last several months my site has been hosted for free by Anyxhost.com.  That&#8217;s why my site had the address talatorre.anyxhost.com.  Well, the last week of August my site went offline and anyxhost disappeared without a trace.  I haven&#8217;t been able to find out any information about where they went.  Fortunately I was being hosted for free so I didn&#8217;t loose much except for some data and time.  However, many people had paid service with anyxhost and lost money as well.</p>
<p>I am now being hosted by Novice Host and I have paid to have my own domain, i.e. talatorre.com.  Having my own domain name means that even if Novice Host goes belly up and can just move my site to any other host and will still have the address of talatorre.com.  So from now on until the end of my life, you will find the latest of what&#8217;s going on in my life right here at TAlatorre Online!</p>
<p>UPDATE July 9th, 2009: Novice Host went out of business only <a href="http://www.talatorre.com/2004/11/learn-from-my-mistakes/">3 months later</a> and I lost money as well as my new domain name.</p>
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